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I use ISO 800 5.6 1/6, hehe



You can't get the sharp images your clients deserve if you did so....


True! I suggest you do an exeriment: shoot pictures with both lens, ask your client to pick. Then you will know the result.


There are many smart customers out there, i have shot a weeding of one well-know local wedding photographer's daughter's wedding, how can i show up with a $200 zoom lens as main lens, no way !

Also i think we have the different philosphies on this topic..
I suggest your boss to buy some point and shoot camera, that will say some money and can get the job done too...

Cheer :)


I don't think that is a fact. He uses 2 5D bodies, best body in the world.


hehe....tell me, as a photographer yourself, in general, which is the most important factor. Lens or the body ???

If you put the 28-200/5.6 $200 lens on the 1Ds Maek II body, that will be a JOKE...... :)


Again, back to the point: who is going to look at it, you or your customer? at what size, 10X10 or 40X40? 杀鸡用牛刀，isn't it a joke?


跟你讲一个真实的故事，两州前去外地拍了一个婚礼， 父母是犹太人--医生， 女孩是个有执照的律师， 你应该可以想象出这婚礼的档次。。。

我见他们时，他们最关心就是我用什么设备？ 为什么？ 她姐姐结婚时请了一个拍了20年婚礼的专业摄影师， 可是在她父亲举杯贺词时， 那个摄影师asked his father to do the same pose three times, why ? he can't get the focus on ....... you know the story.

If he use the right equipment, i don't think he had that trouble.......

So use the best gears you can get, that's my rule at least :D
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I use ISO 800 5.6 1/6, hehe



You can't get the sharp images your clients deserve if you did so....


True! I suggest you do an exeriment: shoot pictures with both lens, ask your client to pick. Then you will know the result.


There are many smart customers out there, i have shot a weeding of one well-know local wedding photographer's daughter's wedding, how can i show up with a $200 zoom lens as main lens, no way !

Also i think we have the different philosphies on this topic..
I suggest your boss to buy some point and shoot camera, that will say some money and can get the job done too...

Cheer :)


I don't think that is a fact. He uses 2 5D bodies, best body in the world.


hehe....tell me, as a photographer yourself, in general, which is the most important factor. Lens or the body ???

If you put the 28-200/5.6 $200 lens on the 1Ds Maek II body, that will be a JOKE...... :)


Again, back to the point: who is going to look at it, you or your customer? at what size, 10X10 or 40X40? 杀鸡用牛刀，isn't it a joke?


跟你讲一个真实的故事，两州前去外地拍了一个婚礼， 父母是犹太人--医生， 女孩是个有执照的律师， 你应该可以想象出这婚礼的档次。。。

我见他们时，他们最关心就是我用什么设备？ 为什么？ 她姐姐结婚时请了一个拍了20年婚礼的专业摄影师， 可是在她父亲举杯贺词时， 那个摄影师asked his father to do the same pose three times, why ? he can't get the focus on ....... you know the story.

If he use the right equipment, i don't think he had that trouble.......

So use the best gears you can get, that's my rule at least :D


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I use ISO 800 5.6 1/6, hehe



You can't get the sharp images your clients deserve if you did so....


True! I suggest you do an exeriment: shoot pictures with both lens, ask your client to pick. Then you will know the result.


There are many smart customers out there, i have shot a weeding of one well-know local wedding photographer's daughter's wedding, how can i show up with a $200 zoom lens as main lens, no way !

Also i think we have the different philosphies on this topic..
I suggest your boss to buy some point and shoot camera, that will say some money and can get the job done too...

Cheer :)


I don't think that is a fact. He uses 2 5D bodies, best body in the world.


hehe....tell me, as a photographer yourself, in general, which is the most important factor. Lens or the body ???

If you put the 28-200/5.6 $200 lens on the 1Ds Maek II body, that will be a JOKE...... :)


Again, back to the point: who is going to look at it, you or your customer? at what size, 10X10 or 40X40? 杀鸡用牛刀，isn't it a joke?


跟你讲一个真实的故事，两州前去外地拍了一个婚礼， 父母是犹太人--医生， 女孩是个有执照的律师， 你应该可以想象出这婚礼的档次。。。

我见他们时，他们最关心就是我用什么设备？ 为什么？ 她姐姐结婚时请了一个拍了20年婚礼的专业摄影师， 可是在她父亲举杯贺词时， 那个摄影师asked his father to do the same pose three times, why ? he can't get the focus on ....... you know the story.

If he use the right equipment, i don't think he had that trouble.......

So use the best gears you can get, that's my rule at least :D


老人家特懂相机?


我想两年前的教训使他们丢了点面子吧， 相必这次是作了一点homework，我用Canon， 他们知道“红圈”头， 我的伙伴用Nikon, 他们问: Can you shoot without flash for the ceremony ?

They were well prepared......
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I use ISO 800 5.6 1/6, hehe



You can't get the sharp images your clients deserve if you did so....


True! I suggest you do an exeriment: shoot pictures with both lens, ask your client to pick. Then you will know the result.


There are many smart customers out there, i have shot a weeding of one well-know local wedding photographer's daughter's wedding, how can i show up with a $200 zoom lens as main lens, no way !

Also i think we have the different philosphies on this topic..
I suggest your boss to buy some point and shoot camera, that will say some money and can get the job done too...

Cheer :)


I don't think that is a fact. He uses 2 5D bodies, best body in the world.


hehe....tell me, as a photographer yourself, in general, which is the most important factor. Lens or the body ???

If you put the 28-200/5.6 $200 lens on the 1Ds Maek II body, that will be a JOKE...... :)


Again, back to the point: who is going to look at it, you or your customer? at what size, 10X10 or 40X40? 杀鸡用牛刀，isn't it a joke?


跟你讲一个真实的故事，两州前去外地拍了一个婚礼， 父母是犹太人--医生， 女孩是个有执照的律师， 你应该可以想象出这婚礼的档次。。。

我见他们时，他们最关心就是我用什么设备？ 为什么？ 她姐姐结婚时请了一个拍了20年婚礼的专业摄影师， 可是在她父亲举杯贺词时， 那个摄影师asked his father to do the same pose three times, why ? he can't get the focus on ....... you know the story.

If he use the right equipment, i don't think he had that trouble.......

So use the best gears you can get, that's my rule at least :D


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我想两年前的教训使他们丢了点面子吧， 相必这次是作了一点homework，我用Canon， 他们知道“红圈”头， 我的伙伴用Nikon, 他们问: Can you shoot without flash for the ceremony ?

They were well prepared......


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I use ISO 800 5.6 1/6, hehe



You can't get the sharp images your clients deserve if you did so....


True! I suggest you do an exeriment: shoot pictures with both lens, ask your client to pick. Then you will know the result.


There are many smart customers out there, i have shot a weeding of one well-know local wedding photographer's daughter's wedding, how can i show up with a $200 zoom lens as main lens, no way !

Also i think we have the different philosphies on this topic..
I suggest your boss to buy some point and shoot camera, that will say some money and can get the job done too...

Cheer :)


I don't think that is a fact. He uses 2 5D bodies, best body in the world.


hehe....tell me, as a photographer yourself, in general, which is the most important factor. Lens or the body ???

If you put the 28-200/5.6 $200 lens on the 1Ds Maek II body, that will be a JOKE...... :)


Again, back to the point: who is going to look at it, you or your customer? at what size, 10X10 or 40X40? 杀鸡用牛刀，isn't it a joke?


跟你讲一个真实的故事，两州前去外地拍了一个婚礼， 父母是犹太人--医生， 女孩是个有执照的律师， 你应该可以想象出这婚礼的档次。。。

我见他们时，他们最关心就是我用什么设备？ 为什么？ 她姐姐结婚时请了一个拍了20年婚礼的专业摄影师， 可是在她父亲举杯贺词时， 那个摄影师asked his father to do the same pose three times, why ? he can't get the focus on ....... you know the story.

If he use the right equipment, i don't think he had that trouble.......

So use the best gears you can get, that's my rule at least :D


老人家特懂相机?


我想两年前的教训使他们丢了点面子吧， 相必这次是作了一点homework，我用Canon， 他们知道“红圈”头， 我的伙伴用Nikon, 他们问: Can you shoot without flash for the ceremony ?

They were well prepared......


国家元首都讨厌用闪光灯了


呵呵。。。打倒“闪光灯”，。。。。

不过有的时候闪光灯也是必须的--为了画质和光效 :)
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I use ISO 800 5.6 1/6, hehe



You can't get the sharp images your clients deserve if you did so....


True! I suggest you do an exeriment: shoot pictures with both lens, ask your client to pick. Then you will know the result.


There are many smart customers out there, i have shot a weeding of one well-know local wedding photographer's daughter's wedding, how can i show up with a $200 zoom lens as main lens, no way !

Also i think we have the different philosphies on this topic..
I suggest your boss to buy some point and shoot camera, that will say some money and can get the job done too...

Cheer :)


I don't think that is a fact. He uses 2 5D bodies, best body in the world.


hehe....tell me, as a photographer yourself, in general, which is the most important factor. Lens or the body ???

If you put the 28-200/5.6 $200 lens on the 1Ds Maek II body, that will be a JOKE...... :)


Again, back to the point: who is going to look at it, you or your customer? at what size, 10X10 or 40X40? 杀鸡用牛刀，isn't it a joke?


跟你讲一个真实的故事，两州前去外地拍了一个婚礼， 父母是犹太人--医生， 女孩是个有执照的律师， 你应该可以想象出这婚礼的档次。。。

我见他们时，他们最关心就是我用什么设备？ 为什么？ 她姐姐结婚时请了一个拍了20年婚礼的专业摄影师， 可是在她父亲举杯贺词时， 那个摄影师asked his father to do the same pose three times, why ? he can't get the focus on ....... you know the story.

If he use the right equipment, i don't think he had that trouble.......

So use the best gears you can get, that's my rule at least :D


老人家特懂相机?


我想两年前的教训使他们丢了点面子吧， 相必这次是作了一点homework，我用Canon， 他们知道“红圈”头， 我的伙伴用Nikon, 他们问: Can you shoot without flash for the ceremony ?

They were well prepared......


国家元首都讨厌用闪光灯了


呵呵。。。打倒“闪光灯”，。。。。

不过有的时候闪光灯也是必须的--为了画质和光效 :)


闪光闪光,越闪越光.在婚礼闪光可能拿不到几粒米.
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呵呵。。。打倒“闪光灯”，。。。。

不过有的时候闪光灯也是必须的--为了画质和光效 :)


闪光闪光,越闪越光.在婚礼闪光可能拿不到几粒米.


也不能这么讲。。。Getting ready阶段根据光线情况可用可不用；
Ceremony的关键阶段绝对不能用，太杀风景和气氛。。。至于reception阶段， 那是一定要用的喽。。。。

米多米少跟闪灯关系不大。。。。。。

PJ style 的创始人 Denis Reggie ，大部分时间都用闪灯，但在 Cemenory 过程中用200/1.8L..... 他至少要charge 几万米， 呵呵。。。
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呵呵。。。打倒“闪光灯”，。。。。

不过有的时候闪光灯也是必须的--为了画质和光效 :)


闪光闪光,越闪越光.在婚礼闪光可能拿不到几粒米.


也不能这么讲。。。Getting ready阶段根据光线情况可用可不用；
Ceremony的关键阶段绝对不能用，太杀风景和气氛。。。至于reception阶段， 那是一定要用的喽。。。。

米多米少跟闪灯关系不大。。。。。。

PJ style 的创始人 Denis Reggie ，大部分时间都用闪灯，但在 Cemenory 过程中用200/1.8L..... 他至少要charge 几万米， 呵呵。。。


呵呵,昏理高手! :D :D :D
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呵呵。。。打倒“闪光灯”，。。。。

不过有的时候闪光灯也是必须的--为了画质和光效 :)


闪光闪光,越闪越光.在婚礼闪光可能拿不到几粒米.


也不能这么讲。。。Getting ready阶段根据光线情况可用可不用；
Ceremony的关键阶段绝对不能用，太杀风景和气氛。。。至于reception阶段， 那是一定要用的喽。。。。

米多米少跟闪灯关系不大。。。。。。

PJ style 的创始人 Denis Reggie ，大部分时间都用闪灯，但在 Cemenory 过程中用200/1.8L..... 他至少要charge 几万米， 呵呵。。。


呵呵,昏理高手! :D :D :D


打倒 ！呵呵。。。。Bed time, bye everyone !
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。。。。Bed time, bye everyone !


精彩的故事，精彩的讨论，peter 晚安，咱们西岸的没那么早睡的吧，今晚要把昨天拍的作业做出来。
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You can't get the sharp images your clients deserve if you did so....


True! I suggest you do an exeriment: shoot pictures with both lens, ask your client to pick. Then you will know the result.


There are many smart customers out there, i have shot a weeding of one well-know local wedding photographer's daughter's wedding, how can i show up with a $200 zoom lens as main lens, no way !

Also i think we have the different philosphies on this topic..
I suggest your boss to buy some point and shoot camera, that will say some money and can get the job done too...

Cheer :)


I don't think that is a fact. He uses 2 5D bodies, best body in the world.


hehe....tell me, as a photographer yourself, in general, which is the most important factor. Lens or the body ???

If you put the 28-200/5.6 $200 lens on the 1Ds Maek II body, that will be a JOKE...... :)


Again, back to the point: who is going to look at it, you or your customer? at what size, 10X10 or 40X40? 杀鸡用牛刀，isn't it a joke?


haha ....

If you said so, why you guys use the 5D, 300D should be good enough for you....right ??? b/c your customer can't tell the difference...??

BTW, i saw two images you posted for the day light wedding, they are not sharp even at the websize @ f/8......Sorry to say so....

There are lots differences between the pro line lens and the $300 28-200/3,5-5.6 lens. With the pro lens, you will get quicker focus and better accuracy---these are most critical for wedding work, more details of the images and better perspertive of looking of your subject....

and f/2.8 is a line of many camera body's cross sensor works...at f/5.6 with your 28-200/3.5-5.6 lens on 5D. your 5D lost its focusing ability it has......

I really want to see the images that you took @ 1/6sec with the 28-200/3.5-5.6 in the dark church@f/5.6 without flash, and wish i can be convenced to buy the 28-200/3.5-5.6 myself instead of using 24/1.4L 85/1.2L 16-35/2.8L 24-70/2.8L and 70-200/2.8L IS... :)
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支持 Peter的观点. 拍婚礼我感觉一定要用好的器材,至少在黑暗的情况下不用闪灯或三脚架能拍出可用的东西来.

我的很多客人都很关心我所用的器材,几乎所有的客人都关心这个问题.我拍摄时一般用两个机器, 5D+ 24-70/2.8L , 20D+70-200/f2.8 is L, 还有个50MM/F1.4的备用(基本上没怎么用过).
我感觉客人花2000元雇你其中也包括你所使用的设备.我感觉客人问你用什么设备时你说用什么什么狗头,很可能他都不跟你往下谈了.
当然您要是大师,特别有名您用什么都有理,怎么拍都有理.

1/6秒打S我我也手持不住.
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